- Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:47 am
#31008
In the many sources that I tend to use , numerous regions of the 2 main important countries Guinea and Mali are mentioned . But often I see that some of the names of regions that are used , are not always to be found among the official administrative divisions like prefectures , sub-prefectures etc ...
A part of this research involves also distinguishing historical regions from today´s actual administrative regions .
An example is the info given for the rhythm Sunu as listed in the book by Rigert/Koné : The corresponding region is listed as Kaarta .
So I tried to find out about this region and found that it actually is a historical region , even though the name seems to be continued to be used to this day :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaarta
Additionaly , it is also the name of a plateau ( even though in this link the term region is used , though it is clear that the term plateau is more exact ) :
http://www.encquran.brill.nl/entries/en ... 28?s.num=9
So , after looking for some more time I found out that the actual ( bigger ) current administrative region is Kayes .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cercles_of_Mali
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kayes_Region
Well , ok , the Kayes region having 7 administrative cercles , I couldn´t find out where this Kaarta region and/or plateau is situated . This is the point where the research didn´t bring any fun anymore and turned out to be a little dry ...
Anyway , it has shown me my limits .
Subsequently I also tried to pin down the Hamanah region , but could not find it among the 12 sub-prefectures ( Kouroussa-Centre • Babila • Balato • Banfélé • Baro • Cisséla • Douako • Doura • Kiniéro • Komola-Koura • Koumana • Sanguiana ) of the Kouroussa prefecture :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kouroussa_Prefecture
( The link says Hamanah is the historical name of the region , but somehow I gained the impression that the Hamanah region mentioned in djembe literature is somehow smaller than the whole Kouroussa prefecture ... ( wrong ? )]
Since the names Baro and Koumana have been mentioned here quite often , I think there could maybe be a connection ; but I don´t know if these sub-prefectures correspond to the seemingly smaller villages of Baro and Koumana ( correct ? or am I mixing up things ? ) .
From what I´ve read here and there I think it should be quite near to Gberedu . Then again I found a sub-prefecture called Gbérédou-Baranama in the Kankan prefecture .
Here again I don´t know if this sub-prefecture correponds to the Gberedu that is often mentioned together with Hamana ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kankan_Prefecture
On the other hand Hamanah ( Hamana ) is mentioned on different sites as being either a canton or a district . Well , I can not find any index of administrative entities of Guinea being either Districts or Cantons ( smaller than sub-prefectures ?... )
Below is a reference to the " Gberedou/Hamana region " , unfortunately it is not mentioned to which sub-prefecture(s) it corresponds ...
Additionally Baro and Koumana are mentioned as villages ... ( pointing maybe to the sub-prefectures mentioned above ?... )
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gberedou/_Hamana
Ok , this was the point where I left the whole thing for good .
In the future , I´ll use this thread when trying to ascertain some administrative or historical region , that can not be easily pinned down .
A part of this research involves also distinguishing historical regions from today´s actual administrative regions .
An example is the info given for the rhythm Sunu as listed in the book by Rigert/Koné : The corresponding region is listed as Kaarta .
So I tried to find out about this region and found that it actually is a historical region , even though the name seems to be continued to be used to this day :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaarta
Additionaly , it is also the name of a plateau ( even though in this link the term region is used , though it is clear that the term plateau is more exact ) :
http://www.encquran.brill.nl/entries/en ... 28?s.num=9
So , after looking for some more time I found out that the actual ( bigger ) current administrative region is Kayes .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cercles_of_Mali
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kayes_Region
Well , ok , the Kayes region having 7 administrative cercles , I couldn´t find out where this Kaarta region and/or plateau is situated . This is the point where the research didn´t bring any fun anymore and turned out to be a little dry ...
Anyway , it has shown me my limits .
Subsequently I also tried to pin down the Hamanah region , but could not find it among the 12 sub-prefectures ( Kouroussa-Centre • Babila • Balato • Banfélé • Baro • Cisséla • Douako • Doura • Kiniéro • Komola-Koura • Koumana • Sanguiana ) of the Kouroussa prefecture :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kouroussa_Prefecture
( The link says Hamanah is the historical name of the region , but somehow I gained the impression that the Hamanah region mentioned in djembe literature is somehow smaller than the whole Kouroussa prefecture ... ( wrong ? )]
Since the names Baro and Koumana have been mentioned here quite often , I think there could maybe be a connection ; but I don´t know if these sub-prefectures correspond to the seemingly smaller villages of Baro and Koumana ( correct ? or am I mixing up things ? ) .
From what I´ve read here and there I think it should be quite near to Gberedu . Then again I found a sub-prefecture called Gbérédou-Baranama in the Kankan prefecture .
Here again I don´t know if this sub-prefecture correponds to the Gberedu that is often mentioned together with Hamana ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kankan_Prefecture
On the other hand Hamanah ( Hamana ) is mentioned on different sites as being either a canton or a district . Well , I can not find any index of administrative entities of Guinea being either Districts or Cantons ( smaller than sub-prefectures ?... )
Below is a reference to the " Gberedou/Hamana region " , unfortunately it is not mentioned to which sub-prefecture(s) it corresponds ...
Additionally Baro and Koumana are mentioned as villages ... ( pointing maybe to the sub-prefectures mentioned above ?... )
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gberedou/_Hamana
Ok , this was the point where I left the whole thing for good .
In the future , I´ll use this thread when trying to ascertain some administrative or historical region , that can not be easily pinned down .

